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Today parents withdrew $1000

Hello everyone, when my mom and I took 1000 from Chase, it was mistake because only 216 was necessary to pay for their car insurance and there were no other payments. So I put 784 back into bank.

It’s unclear what “there were no other payments” means. How is that? So you had no financial burden because of the house? How? This raises more questions and confusion.

Thank you Denis for your Kind message. No, I’m not well lately. I’ve been VERY, Very, sad and depressed. Nana Cries almost every day…. Harrison Now knows the word “Crying!” He even says that word when talking with Luda, seeing her Cry and his Mommy crying. And you know what? I cry too. Every Day…. This has been going on WAY TOO LONG. It’s RIPPING My Heart apart. It’s RUINING OUR FAMILY. It’s Hurting Us, and it’s KILLING ME. Sad 🥺😢😭😩 It is…. I Love You Denis. And I ALWAYS Appreciate When You Sincerely, Kindly, & Lovingly say Hello to me and greet me with Love. Anything else, would make me heart feel…😭 So please, Let me say Thank You My Brother. I Hope we can talk more soon. I Love You…and your Family. Good night 🌙

The other day, while waiting for our mechanic Randy work on our car, I took this photo 📸 (And Nana Doesn’t Know it!) PLEASE DONT SHARE THIS WITH ANYONE!!! At 11:29am… in Public, Nana was Still Crying! Do you know how this affects me and her Little Harrison…and Jehovah, and All the angels…??? And why? Because, her Sister isn’t the Same as before…They don’t have the Loving relationship as before. Even though we Truly Apologized, in your home, Months Ago, This “Cancer,” Is Still here. IT HAS BEEN AWFUL.. 😭 She’s Crying in Public… (She would be Very mad 😡 if she knew I took this photo and even worse, if I showed you.). But, it HURT ME & It Hurts Harrison watching us Cry. He Should NOT Understand This word…with our family. 💔

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This…Can’t continue. It Will KILL US…and Our Family. As Mathew says, “Be Quick! ….Leave your gift at the alter, go make peace”. Otherwise, our worship is in Vain. Matthew 5:24,25

I’m So Sad for Nana and Mayya and her Luda, who also Cries 😭. And that Harrison sees them crying, and when they talk on the phone, “Luda, Crying!” I’m SICK! 😩 Mathew…5:23-25. Denis, I’m No Body… but I Do Know…This is Not How our Family should continue. And I Know the 📖

Gnite 🌙 And thank you for allowing me to express my thoughts and heart. I Love you ❤️

Clayton and I are very sorry. It's unfortunate that this happened. We found our mistake and, in agreement with our parents, returned the $ 3,500 to the bank.

Dear Denis & Mayya, we’re sure you spent A Lot of time putting this letter together before sending it to us. Again, we’re sorry that you are Still upset with us. We would ask that you give us time to think of how to reply and respond to your questions and so as to regain our friendship & trust with you again. Clayton & Nana

You’re welcome 😊

Dear Denis & Mayya, Thank you for your letter and sharing your thoughts and feelings with us. We're deeply concerned and Still feel very sorry for what has happened in our family. We don't agree that you're calling our actions, as you say “pretending.” And you are Still bringing up the issue of Clayton's name on the checking account years ago. This is something that we have already apologized for, in front of You and the Family. It's looks like Whatever we are doing, really does Not matter to you and our sincere apologies have not been good enough for you. And you feel that we are Still pretending in your eyes. This is So Very Sad. Our apologies were and are sincere. This Hurts us Very Much that you feel we are Lying and Stealing from parents. In your last message to us, you are raising a point, about... “and Now This.” Questions about money we returned, after we discovered our mistake in calculating what parents owed us. You wrote, because it was Thousands, it makes it More Serious! We Don't agree. The mistake was Not the amount but, the Way We Calculated it - This is Important! That was the error. And Immediately after we discovered the error, we went to correct the matter. We Both went to parents at their house to apologize, and return the money. We both felt this responsibility and we both took this very seriously! So your accusation of Clayton stepping back is untruth. They asked us to return the money into their checking account and that is what we did after leaving their house. We returned the Full Amount that parents agreed to. We never reject to realize and accept our mistakes. Yes, we call it's a mistake, because we didn't do anything on purpose. We Didn't “Scheme or Plan” to Steal from them, as you seem to accuse us of. The mistake we made, happened years ago and because it was a mistake of how we calculated what we thought they owed us, each year, it happened again. And here is an example of 2025 TAXES: Income: Rent per Year – (1900 x12) = $ 22,800 3 Rivers CD interest --------- $ 4,880 TOTAL --------- $ 27,680 Deductions: House Insurance – $ 1,371.93 Property TAX ------ $ 4,572.84 Association ---------- $ 35.00 Depreciation -------- $ 8,109 Car registration ----- $ 88.35 TOTAL --------- $ 14,177 Income – Deductions (27,680-14,177) = 13,503 12% from 13,503 = $ 1,620 The Mistake was in our calculations, to take 12 %. (12% is a our TAX bracket when we add parents income with ours.) So, we thought it was Correct & fair. At first we didn't wish to accept anything from parents for 2025 tax year. Later Mom & Nana discussed the matter and told us that $1000 should be paid (which included $216 their car Insurance). After more discussion and more calculations with Mom & Nana, this full $784 amount was returned and deposited into account. According NEW Calculation of 2025 together with Mom: Total Parents Income – 27,680 Parents Deductions – 14,177 ------------------------------- 13,503 Adjusted Gross Income 1) Federal TAX – Payment is $ 0,00!! (If they were doing their Own Tax Return) 2) Indiana State – Pay 3% 3% of 13,500 = $ 405 3) Allen County – between 0,5-3% With agreement we took 1,59% 1.59% of 13,500 = $ 215 $405 + 215 = 620 With parents we used 2025 calculation for previews years too. Therefore, calculation mistakes we made, were returned back in bank after our meeting with parents. We were surprised to hear that you... “Gave us Time for our explanation,” because we thought it was Already explained. Mayya was there together with Nana and parents, when Nana mentioned we wanted to return money. And again Mayya came to parents house when Nana & parents did Final calculation together. So, Mayya's attendance there gave us confidence that not only parents, but Mayya was involved and informed as well. If she wasn't in agreement, Why didn't she raise a question right then with Nana and parents instead of Still being upset and letting this go on and on? Our Returning the money meant we Not Only returned the money from 2025 but also the previous years. We did what was right to fix the issue. Sooner or later mistakes can come up, and if or when they do, we would work to Immediately Correct any mistakes that were found, just as we did. We also Don't understand why you Changed our group to write separately in “Legal Team” without parents. This is Not Our money and it is Not your money. It's still Their money and they should be informed that you are Still angry with us and accusing us of wrongdoing. It's very heartbreaking to see that you are still holding on to your anger. We are Very Sorry you are upset with us, including Harrison... A good relationship takes both sides. We hope this letter helps you to see the whole picture. Our will is to have peace and a better relationship and to be a Happy family. We've apologized Several times. As the June broadcast suggested, We need to forgive and “Let it Go.” With love Clayton & Nana

Ok thanks

We wanted to call you last evening but couldn’t make it. We are just leaving my mother’s and caring for her. We can meet later this afternoon. Harrison will have to be us. We can even meet in Starbucks nearby on Maysville. Just let us know.

Btw what is this meeting about?

Denis, we very much appreciate you wishing to meet with us again. We’ve expressed ourselves in letters to you on WhatsApp and have tried to explain how we calculated things with parents taxes. We’ve apologized to parents over and over. We don’t know what else to do? So please…we have just two more questions. 1, Please…Let us know what more can we do to correct matters? 2, Please let us know what is still missing in your eyes (you and Mayya) that we have not done yet? We have nothing to hide. We also strongly feel that because of having been accused of wrongdoing, that the body of elders should be contacted. This should have been done Long ago.

Thank you Denis…at almost 1:00am, it pleases me to read your message and know this. Thank you. I will tell Nana this in the morning so we can set up a time to talk together. Thank you again for messaging us, even late at night. We continue to pray for you both and our family. We Do…We know that with Jehovah’s help, it will be better. Goodnight 🌙

Good morning, we would like to invite you both over to our house later today after meeting. Maybe around 6:00pm Denis, we feel it’s important you And Mayya come to discuss things… together. Because they involve all of us. Otherwise, you’ll have to go home and tell her everything we discussed. If you both agree, we’ll ask parents to watch Harrison. Just let us know please.

Denis, this is So important and yet, Mayya cannot make this meeting with us together? We will just wait until you both can visit with us together in person. Please let us know if she changes her mind or what evening works best for her. Thanks again.

Nana, Dad asked you to have Clayton removed from the bank account. Please write here once he has been removed.

Ok ✅

Clayton has been removed from the bank account.

Hello Denis & Mayya, We have sent you messages, Several times to show that Nana & I agree to meet together and discuss issues that still bother you. Last Sunday, 19 July, we sent you a message agreeing to meet with you. But we Strongly feel that when we talk about things, Mayya should also be there when we meet. You only write us back saying “we don’t wish to meet.” This is Not true! Why can’t Mayya come with you? Again, This meeting should involve her as well. Denis, we feel it’s important You And Mayya come together. This involves all of us. As we wrote in our last message, when Mayya is ready please let us know.

Hello Denis, Yes…Let me know if we can meet together later today after 5:30-6:00. Thanks

Ok

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No I’m sorry, I will not be available today

Yesterday, Sunday, we picked up parents Toyota and brought it home. We will clean it and list it for sale soon. 😊

Hello Denis, let me know if we can continue our conversation, maybe tomorrow evening since we won’t have meeting? Thanks

Ok 👍🏼

Ok, I will look for it.

It was very painful for me to read about the meeting between Denis and Clayton, which ended badly. Clayton's behavior—shouting, interrupting, and striking the car with his hand—is unacceptable for a Jehovah's Witness, especially toward a brother-in-law. Denis wanted to clarify the situation and ease the tension. To do so, he had every right to obtain the necessary information from Clayton on certain issues. Instead, the situation became even more tense. This is not good. Zurab.

Hello Denis, We see that we have different opinions on subjects that you are concerned with. But we are from different countries and different cultures. Therefore, we’re not surprised. But you tell us that you “Don’t want to hear about our motives,” What we did, and Why? But once more, I DO NOT REGRET Helping parents. But, as I said before, I DO REGRET Not writing parents and making you and Mayya aware ahead of time “in writing”. And we have even Apologized about this….Again. You mentioned to everyone that we are not moving ahead because as you say, we are “arguing” and that I am interrupting you. Why? Because as you say, you wish to “discuss things” with me, which only means, that you wish to Constantly bring up and repeat the Same questions to us Over & Over again! Therefore, I repeat the same answers every time. For us, a discussion involves “Talking & Listening,” back and forth. Not just listening to your testimony and after your all done, to reply. You ask us questions about “Large amounts of money being withdrawn,” but Don’t allow us to show you that we Already explained this to you In Writing back in July. These were Figures that were already discussed and agreed upon and Clayton & Nana did not come up with these amounts on their own. I offered to go home and bring back papers to show you this (even though you already had this in writing on your phone) and yet, you still “wish to just discuss things.” You say… You Don’t trust us, & this is very sad. Is All this about the $620 each year, for three 3 years that parents gave us for their portion of taxes? Is this what is still bothering you? And this putting my name on their account Still bothers you so Much that, I decided to leave our meeting at your house. Because, you are Really saying, we took money from parents. So I left. And as I walked to my car, I saw your Camry, I remembered, that after Lizzi got into an accident and smashed the car headlights, it reminded me of how many times we have tried to help you and that we wanted to give you Brand New headlights just to be nice. And yes, I thought of this as I walked by your car because your family is Still So angry with us. And because of this anger you have towards us, is this why at our district convention you couldn’t even speak to us? And Mayya wouldn’t even turn her head & look at us as we tried to say hello before leaving. We wish that you could look at the Big picture of how we have, for many years, helped your family and parents. Please understand that our motives are very important, Not just our actions…and mistakes. We keep apologizing…But you keep choosing Not to accept apologies. Jehovah has. We pray you will too. We Love You and our family.

Denis, Thank you for your Long List of desired documents regarding the parents house at 1717 Benham Drive. We have to wonder and ask, after 4 years, Yes, it’s been 4 yrs 08/27/22 since that house was purchased, and now, Why all of a sudden, do you show an interest in so many things! When for 4 yrs, you’ve never asked us, or offered to assist us with any of the paperwork or to look for tenants or to interview them, or to help set up a lease agreements, or even to collect the rent. Well first, we rented the house to a family in /2022 for $1800 You can check the CHASE checking account to see that we deposited their first month’s rent and one month deposit. You’ll also see that we returned their deposit just before the new-current renter started. No, I didn’t keep a copy of the old lease agreement for the first renters. But, we did report this $1800 amount to the Allen Co/Wayne Township office (Oct. 24, 2022) and also reported this amount on our schedule E forms, which I already provided you. As for the other legal documents you’re asking to review, Home owners insurance, I provided you a copy of the current Landlords policy info 12/2025-2026 policy pg. along with the Allstate Ins agents name & phone number. You can call their local office and ask them to get you the information you need. 260-493-3507 Ask for ins. agent Bryan. Mayya is Co-owner and she can request that. You also wish a copy of the Property Tax records. Again, since Mayya name is already on the property, she can call the Allen County Treasurers office and request a copy of the needed years of taxes paid. But to help you, we’re enclosing a photo of the 2025 Tax Spring & Fall tax bills that have the Parcel Number & Duplicate Number so Mayya can look up online for other tax years. Photos of Needed phone numbers are on the back side of the tax bill. Mayya can also request the assessment values from the Allen County Assessors office. If you wish any copies of documents regarding the closing papers from the purchase, we suggest that you call Metropolitan Title company and request any needed documentation. Please remember, they already gave both Mayya and Nana a copy of the signed paperwork after she was added to title earlier this year. If you want a copy of the warranty deed, I’m sure they can provide her a copy. You should also be aware that Nana received a 1099 for our income taxes for the 2023 tax year. This amount of $2150 we had to report on “Our Taxes.” This was for money given to parents when they arrived from Georgia. This 1099 came from Catholic Charities Diocese, check dated 12/12/2023 and check # 129215 from JP Morgan Chase Bank, NA. A photo copy of this has been included. You know…it’s Very Sad, that you appear to be doing a “Fact Check-Audit” of our financial dealings…4 years AFTER we did All the work! Now you ask us for all these years of records but, at our recent District Convention, you Wouldn’t even speak to us. How Very Sad! I hope this info helps you.

Hello, Nana and Clayton! I hope you are well. Nana, my dear, it seems that handing over the house documents to Mayya is becoming difficult. We, your parents, gave that house to you, our daughters. You registered it as a 50/50 ownership. That means you each own half: you, Nana, own one half, and Mayya owns the other half. Therefore, Mayya also has the legal right to have the house documents!! Why has this issue remained unresolved? Don't make the situation more tense! Please give Mayya the documents she is entitled to. This would be the right and fair way to handle the matter. Give our regards to Clayton. Give Harrison a kiss from us.❤️

Thank you…It would have been nice to see you together in person, instead of just dropping it off at the door. Even garage door was open, we were home

Hello Denis, here is a photo of the Warranty Deed and the envelope that was sent to Nana that was mailed back in March 2026. The rest of the information that you asked for is on your porch. If you need anything else, please call the phone numbers I already sent you. I hope this will make you happy. Clayton & Nana

You’re welcome. That was over 4 years ago, and after closing, I didn’t keep it. I don’t have it. If I did, I would have given it to you.

And I don’t remember even getting those papers. I would have saved them as I always do. Therefore, I don’t have them and don’t remember getting them.